The Good Dirt: Sustainability Explained

Start living more sustainably. The Good Dirt podcast explores all aspects of a sustainable lifestyle with healthy soil as the touchpoint and metaphor for the healing of our relationship with the planet. Mother and daughter team Mary & Emma bring you weekly interviews with farmers, artists, authors, and leaders in the regenerative and sustainable living space.

Recent Episodes

Seeking Real Solutions to Plastic Pollution with Smruti Aravind of The Story of Stuff

Seeking Real Solutions to Plastic Pollution with Smruti Aravind of The Story of Stuff

July 18, 2025 1:03:53

This is an ENCORE EPISODE, originally published on July 7, 2023



In this episode, Emma and Mary sit down to talk to Smruti Aravind, who oversees fundraising, donor communications, and grants at the Story of Stuff Project. Smruti brings over a decade of experience in the nonprofit sector, with an emphasis on digital storytelling and network-building to drive systemic change. Prior to joining the Story of Stuff, she led communications at Faith in Action East Bay, a federation of the largest faith-based organizing network in the U.S. Smruti shares about her work and her perspective on creating meaningful social impact, as well as the campaign work that Story of Stuff is doing in order to create policy change. She introduces the Bottle Bill project as well as the Reuse Revolution, and why burning plastic is not the solution that you may believe it to be. Smruti also touches on what other countries are doing to deal with their waste, the impact on The Global South, and how we can all flex our citizen muscles and advocate for plastic reduction laws to be codified.


Topics Discussed

•Smruti's Work in the Nonprofit Sector

•How the Story of Stuff Came to Be

•Using the Power of Media to Influence Policy Change

•Content Creation & Advocacy

The Story of Microbeads & The Story of Plastic

•Founder Annie Leonard's Inspiration for the Documentary

•Increasing BIPOC Voices in the Search of a Solution

•Systems Thinking for the General Public

The Break Free From Plastic Movement Treaty

•How Millennials and Gender Z Approach Environmental Activism

•Shifting From Individual Responsibility to Systemic Change

•Real Solutions vs. False Solutions

The Great Pacific Plastic Patch 

•Why Burning Plastic & Buying Plastic Clothes Doesn't Work

•Stopping the Tap with Campaign Work: The Bottle Bill & The Reuse Revolution

•What Other Countries Are Doing

•The Impact of Waste on the Global South

•Flexing Our Citizen Muscles

•What Corporations are Able to Change

•Moving to Florida & the Way that Different States Handle Plastic Waste

•Cloth Diapers

•Slow Living in a Big City

•The Impact of the Individual

Episode Resources:

Watch The Story of Stuff Documentary

The California Plastic Incinerator

Connect with Smruti Aravind:

•Website: https://www.storyofstuff.org/blog/people/smruti-aravind/

•YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/storyofstuffproject

•Instagram: @storyofstuff https://instagram.com/storyofstuff/

•Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/storyofstuff

•Links: https://linktr.ee/storyofstuff

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Our Website

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Join The Lady Farmer ALMANAC

•Email us at thegooddirtpodcast@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail! Call 443-459-1950 and ask a question or share what the good dirt means to you!


Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Fast Forward Production.

Exploring Ancestral Diets: A Conversation with Dr. Bill Schindler, Author of Eat Like a Human

Exploring Ancestral Diets: A Conversation with Dr. Bill Schindler, Author of Eat Like a Human

July 11, 2025 1:32:14

In this episode, Dr. Bill Schindler discusses the impact of modern diets on health and the importance of ancestral dietary practices. He shares the journey of the Modern Stone Age Kitchen, a restaurant dedicated to using ancestral approaches to make nutritious and sustainable food accessible, and his family's personal evolution in food preparation and consumption. Dr. Schindler also highlights the significance of seasonal eating, shares fascinating stories from his global travels to learn traditional food practices, and provides practical advice for people looking to improve their health and relationship with food. He emphasizes the necessity of flexibility in diets, understanding cultural and emotional connections to food, and making small, manageable shifts towards more nourishing eating habits.


00:00 The Best Diet Myth

00:27 Seasonal Eating Made Easy

04:34 Introducing Dr. Bill Schindler

07:19 Understanding Ancestral Foods

17:52 The Impact of Technological Revolutions on Diet

18:37 The Cold Chain Revolution

26:02 Personal Journey and Aha Moments

43:31 The Birth of the Sourdough Bread Company

49:11 The Reluctant Restaurant Owners

50:25 Struggles of Homemade Nourishment

52:26 Community and Outreach

53:52 The Food Lab and Educational Programs

55:31 Documenting Indigenous Food Practices

57:56 Traditional Cheese Making in Norway

01:01:34 Exploring Manioc Processing in the Amazon

01:04:38 Adventures in Kenya: The Ash Yogurt Story

01:14:35 Embracing Slow Living and Health Tracking

01:17:52 The Philosophy of Good Dirt

01:19:15 Advice for the Average Family

01:26:33 Celebrating Birthdays with Healthy Desserts

01:30:45 Conclusion and Final Thoughts


Resources:

Bill Schindler's Website modernstoneage.com

Eat Like a Human: Nourishing Foods and Ancient Ways of Cooking to Revolutionize Your Health by Dr. Bill Schindler

Fire the Spark that Ignited Human Evolution by Francis D Burton

Guns, Germs and Steel by Jared Diamond

The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race by Jared Diamond

The Pulse Cure by Dr. Torkil Faero

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🌻 About Lady Farmer:



Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Lady Farmer. 

The Good Dirt podcast is proudly part of the Connectd Podcasts network. 



🌿 The Good Dirt Producers:


• Wendy Gray

Trash Talk: The Truth About Compostables with Lauren Olson of WorldCentric

Trash Talk: The Truth About Compostables with Lauren Olson of WorldCentric

July 4, 2025 59:57

This is an ENCORE EPISODE, originally published on July 9, 2021



In this week’s episode, Mary and Emma dive deep into the world of plastic consumption and waste management with Lauren Olson, a Zero Waste Manager at World Centric, exploring the world of compostables and the use of plastic in our daily lives. The discussion covers several aspects of the topic, including the difficulties of “zero-waste," how plastic sneaks into our homes even when we are consciously trying to avoid it, and all the ways in which existing systems make it difficult to create true sustainability in our homes. 

Lauren explains the science behind bioplastics, as well as the difference between industrial vs home compostables. She also shares how to determine genuinely compostable products and helps us imagine a cradle to cradle world where waste equals food for the earth, and not the other way around! 

Mary and Emma ask the vital questions, what can we do to work through this monumentally large plastic problem, and is it really possible to achieve the ultimate goal of a zero-waste economy? Lauren gives practical tips for individual action, while encouraging all of us to use our voices as paying consumers to demand change from the top down.

1:30 - Mary and Emma catch up and talk about plastic problem solving! 

10:30 - World Centric 

Let’s get into the episode:

11:30 - Introducing Lauren & the world of World Centric 

16:30 - Is zero waste really achievable?  

22:00 - Bioplastics 

30:00 - Landfills as coffins for waste 

35:00 - What can we do? 

36:00 - Greenwashing 

43:00 - Facing this massive issue 

50:00 - What does the Good Dirt mean to you? 

USE CODE: "thegooddirt" for 10% off online at World Centric. Valid for 30 days. 

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Embracing the Seasonal Cycles of Life & Women's Wisdom with Corinna Wood

Embracing the Seasonal Cycles of Life & Women's Wisdom with Corinna Wood

June 27, 2025 1:12:08

In this episode, Corinna Wood, a visionary teacher of women's wisdom, discusses her thirty year career with herbalism, teaching, and community building--all while embracing an earth-based, woman-centered approach to women's inner growth and healing. Corinna reflects on her early influences in herbal medicine and wise woman ways, her experiences founding the Southeast Wise Women Herbal Conference, her contributions to herbal medicine through Red Moon Herbs and her current work supporting women on their own healing journeys.


00:00 Introduction to Radical Self-Care

00:30 Catching Up with Emma

01:13 The Evolution of Air Conditioning

03:08 Reflecting on Hot Summers

05:32 The Impact of Climate Change

05:57 The History of Freezers and Ice

08:20 Appreciating Agricultural Workers

08:56 Introducing Corinna Wood

10:31 Corinna's Journey into Herbal Medicine

17:12 Founding the Southeast Wise Women Herbal Conference

23:09 Memorable Moments at the Conference

27:15 The Wise Woman Needs Wheel

29:14 Teaching Tools for Inner Growth

30:04 Introduction to the Wise Woman Needs Wheel

31:55 Seasonal Needs and Human Connection

38:30 Rituals and Herbal Practices

42:59 The Journey of Red Moon Herbs

47:29 Current Programs and Teachings

51:13 Addressing the 'Not Enough' Belief

55:18 Healing Through Earth-Based Practices

01:00:57 Embracing Slow Living and Cycles

01:06:17 Final Thoughts and Resources


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🌻 About Lady Farmer:



Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Lady Farmer. 

The Good Dirt podcast is proudly part of the Connectd Podcasts network. 



🌿 The Good Dirt Producers:


• Wendy Gray

ENCORE: Seeking the Wisdom of the Earth with Maria Rodale, Author of Love, Nature, Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden

ENCORE: Seeking the Wisdom of the Earth with Maria Rodale, Author of Love, Nature, Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden

June 20, 2025 52:43

This episode was originally published on June 23, 2023


Meet Maria Rodale, an author and advocate for organic regenerative farming. An explorer in search of the mysteries of the universe, Maria is the author of "Love Nature Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden", "Organic Manifesto", "Scratch", and is the author of a children's book series called written by the under the pen name "Mrs. Peanuckle". Her book "Love Nature Magic" was featured as a part of the a recent selection for the Lady Farmer book club, so it was truly an honor to get to talk with her on The Good Dirt. Together, Mary, Emma, and Maria discuss her new book, her family legacy in the world of regenerative agriculture, as well as her evolution from a CEO to (in her own words) a “crazy gardener.” Maria is truly a voice for the power and magic of nature and a guide for all of us seeking to rekindle a meaningful connection to the earth.


Maria is the former CEO and Chairman of Rodale Inc, and has served on multiple nonprofit boards including the Rodale Institute, Bette Midler’s New York Restoration Project, and the Pennsylvania Federal Reserve Advisory council. She has received awards for her lifetime of service and activism, including the National Audubon Rachel Carson Award and the United Nations Population Fund’s Award for the Health and Dignity of Woman Everywhere.


Topics Discussed

• Growing up on as 3rd Generation Farmer at the Rodale Institute

 The Farming Systems Trial

• Moving Out at 18 to Becoming CEO: Family Loss & Legacy

• The Implosion of the Publishing Industry

• Following Her Nose: How Maria Found Writing

• The Making of "Love Nature Magic"

• What is a Shamanic Journey? 

• Dealing with Mugwort in Gardens

• Decolonizing Our Relationship with Nature

• A Garden's Desire to be Wild

• Why the Biggest Changes Come from a Change in Behavior

• Being Open to Hearing Nature's Message

• Changing the Future by Modeling What Could Be Over What Is

• Recovering from a Stroke

•"Regenerative" over "Sustainability"


Episode Resources:

The Rodale Institute: 75 Years of Organic Agriculture Leadership

"Love, Nature, Magic: Shamanic Journeys into the Heart of My Garden"

"Organic Manifesto: How Organic Food Can Heal Our Planet, Feed the World, and Keep Us Safe"

"Scratch: Home Cooking for Everyone Made Simple, Fun, and Totally Delicious: A Cookbook"

Mrs. Peanuckle's Books

Mindful Bear

The Good Dirt: "The Urgent Need for Restorative Gardens with Mary Reynolds"

Fried Dandelion TikTok


Connect with Maria Rodale:

• Website: https://www.mariarodale.com/

• Mrs. Peanuckle Website: https://www.mrspeanuckle.com/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mariarodale/ 

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🌻 About Lady Farmer:

Our Website

•Follow @weareladyfarmer on Instagram

JSign up to join The Lady Farmer ALMANAC

•Email us at thegooddirtpodcast@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail! Call 443-459-1950 and ask a question or share what the good dirt means to you!

Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Fast Forward Production.

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Juneteenth: A History and Reflection on Emancipation with Tony Cohen (ENCORE)

Juneteenth: A History and Reflection on Emancipation with Tony Cohen (ENCORE)

June 19, 2025 43:17

This bonus episode originally aired on June 19th, 2021


We have a special bonus episode for you this week in celebration of our newest national holiday-- Juneteenth! Mary and Emma reunite with author, historian and farmer Tony Cohen for an exploration into the history of Juneteenth and the holiday’s complex folklore and origins. Tony takes us back in time to examine how this monumental declaration of freedom spread in a variety of ways depending on the geographic, economic and social landscape of the time.

Mary, Emma and Tony pause to reflect upon what freedom means and looks like in the modern era and why society continues to resist a hard look at injustice. Tony points to how altering behavior can feel like giving up our own freedoms and comforts and reminds us that the fair trade movement has deeply historic roots. He also reflects upon the transition from enslavement to the tenant farming system and points to how that system affects us still today. The trio grapples with some hard truths about freedom itself and acknowledges the work still left to be done. 

Tony shares how he celebrates Juneteenth at Button Farm and rejoices in community as he reflects upon the precious ability to gather and take new found enthusiasm into the world. 

 

Let’s get into the episode:

1:30 - Emma introduces this week’s special episode

3:00 - Tony Cohen on the history of Juneteenth

15:00 - The transition into freedom

20:00 - The shift to “waged” labor and the evolution of slavery

28:00 - Fair trade

31:00 - Local emancipation

41:00 - Celebrating Juneteenth

42:30 - The happenings at Button Farm

48:00 - Creating Community

 

Things Mentioned: 


🌻 About Lady Farmer:

· Subscribe to The ALMANAC, a Lady Farmer Newsletter & Community

· Visit Our Website

The Lady Farmer Guide to Slow Living

· Follow @weareladyfarmer on Instagram

· Email us at thegooddirtpodcast@gmail.com or leave us a voicemail!

Call 443-459-1950 and ask a question or share what the good dirt means to you!

Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Fast Forward Production.

🌿 The Good Dirt Producers:

· Wendy Gray

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Encore: Curiosity, Creativity and Community with Eva Kosmas Flores

Encore: Curiosity, Creativity and Community with Eva Kosmas Flores

June 13, 2025 1:00:21

This episode was originally published on June 25th, 2021


This week, Mary and Emma have a wonderful conversation with photographer, chef, cookbook author, educator and entrepreneur turned homesteader, Eva Kosmas Flores. Eva shares her journey to the slow living lifestyle, led by an ancestral pull and deep familial ties that have guided her back to a connection with home, the garden, food, family and community. Always leading with curiosity, Eva talks about her new adventures as a homesteader and what she’s learning from the land. 

Throughout the episode, Mary, Emma and Eva talk about the pursuit of the creative life and how to make it work, native species, permaculture gardening and the complexity of our forest ecosystems. They also discuss their sustainable home projects, creating beautiful and enduring interiors, and the complicated decisions involved in the process. Eva reminds us that real life is an intersection of all the things we love, and we have permission to pursue all the parts of ourselves.

 

1:25 - Mary and Emma catch up and talk berries! 

5:00 - Eva Kosmas Flores 

Let’s get into the episode:  

6:20 - Eva introduces herself 

15:50 - Finding and creating a homestead 

21:00 - Forestry and restoring the soil 

22:30 - The importance of native species 

29:00 - Breaking ground 

33:00 - A sustainable home  

39:30 - Timeless, natural interiors  

52:00 - Loving lots of things

57:30 - What does the Good Dirt mean to you?  

 

Things Mentioned:


 

Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross

Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross

June 6, 2025 1:14:07

In this episode of The Good Dirt Podcast, we delve into the profound connections between spirituality, ecology, and our natural world with Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross, co-authors of 'Discovering the Spiritual Wisdom of Trees.' The discussion explores how trees can teach us about relationships, gratitude, reciprocity, and resilience. The authors share personal experiences and practices for deepening our connection to nature and discuss the importance of understanding and preserving our natural ecosystems. They also touch on the environmental and emotional impacts of deforestation, the significance of native versus invasive species, and how small personal actions can contribute to ecological and spiritual wellbeing. The episode invites listeners to slow down, observe, and embrace a deeper harmony with the natural world.


00:00 Introduction to the Hidden World Beneath Our Feet

00:31 Welcoming June and Embracing Slow Living

02:49 Introducing Leah Rampy and Beth Norcross

04:17 Beth Norcross: From Politics to Spiritual Ecology

06:10 Leah Rampy: A Journey of Ecology and Spirituality

07:04 The Spiritual Wisdom of Trees Course and Book

11:58 The Importance of Connection and Kinship with Nature

19:20 Language and Reciprocity in Our Relationship with Nature

38:53 Introduction to Personal Reflections

39:52 Shifting Perspectives on Invasive Species

47:31 The Complexity of Tree Replacement

51:20 Understanding Tree Sentience

54:48 The Concept of Teacher Trees

58:50 Reflections on Slow Living

01:03:45 The Importance of Good Dirt

01:09:07 Final Thoughts and Hope for the Future


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🌻 About Lady Farmer:



Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Lady Farmer. 

The Good Dirt podcast is proudly part of the Connectd Podcasts network. 



🌿 The Good Dirt Producers:


• Wendy Gray



Encore: Seeking Sustainability in Life, Work and Flowers with Bex Partridge of Botanical Tales

Encore: Seeking Sustainability in Life, Work and Flowers with Bex Partridge of Botanical Tales

May 30, 2025 1:09:18

This episode was originally published on June 2, 2022


Despite her life being as busy as ever, Bex Partridge tells us about the ways it feels full of better, more fulfilling things since she made the shift from a corporate job to working as a full-time flower farmer and floral designer. Bex is the founder of Botanical Tales, a dried flower installation business based in Devon, England, where she provides beautiful, low-waste floral designs to her community from her own garden. Since moving to Devon, her family has enjoyed being part of a close-knit community which supports local makers and growers. She encourages listeners to trust the process as they seek to pursue a more sustainable lifestyle, and to remember that we are not separate from nature - we all come from the good dirt.

Topics Covered:

  • Planting by the Moon
  • The Winding Road of the Lady Farmer Lifestyle
  • Floral Artistry and Dried Flowers
  • The Benefits of Local Flowers
  • Floral Design and the Wedding Industry
  • World Events as Catalysts for Paradigm Shifts
  • Rethinking Slow Living as “Full Living”
  • Our Interconnectedness with Nature


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Original music by John Kingsley @jkingsley1026

Statements in this podcast have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not to be considered as medical or nutritional advice. This information is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease, and should not be considered above the advice of your physician. Consult a medical professional when making dietary or lifestyle decisions that could affect your health and well being.

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Adventures of a Bad Naturalist with Paula Whyman

Adventures of a Bad Naturalist with Paula Whyman

May 23, 2025 1:04:49

This episode delves into the journey of Paula Whyman, author of Bad Naturalist: One Woman's Ecological Education on a Wild Virginia Mountaintop. Paula discusses her transformation from a nature enthusiast to a dedicated ecological restorer. The conversation touches on the diverse challenges and rewarding experiences of managing invasive species, the necessity of well-considered ecological interventions, and the intricate balance required to support native plants and wildlife. Through her personal anecdotes and expert insights, Paula illustrates the importance of connecting with nature right where you are and the impact of slow, deliberate efforts in ecological restoration.


00:00 Discovering Nature Close to Home

01:30 Traveling with a Baby: Tips and Experiences

04:19 Gardening Adventures and Native Landscaping

05:29 The Irony of Mowing Less

07:54 Introducing Paula Wyman and Her Book

09:35 Paula Whyman's Journey to Becoming a 'Bad Naturalist'

10:34 Challenges and Rewards of Land Restoration

24:46 The Importance of Native Plants and Ecological Balance

33:55 Invasive Species Statistics

35:09 Tree of Heaven: A Persistent Problem

39:10 Spotted Lantern Fly Invasion

40:15 The Origin and Spread of Tree of Heaven

42:49 Autumn Olive: A Regrettable Introduction

45:45 Challenges with Multiflora Rose

48:20 The Importance of Native Plants

50:13 Creating Habitats for Declining Bird Species

52:07 The Concept of Slow Living

01:00:08 The Good Dirt: Restoring Soil Health

01:01:04 Ongoing Projects and Future Plans

01:03:06 Final Thoughts and Resources


Resources:

Paula Whyman's Website

Bad Naturalist

Wilding by Isabella Tree

Nature's Best Hope by Doug Tallamy

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🌻 About Lady Farmer:



Original music by John Kingsley. Editing and podcast production by Lady Farmer. 

The Good Dirt podcast is proudly part of the Connectd Podcasts network. 



🌿 The Good Dirt Producers:


• Wendy Gray