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The Vertical Farming Podcast is the longest-running interview show in indoor agriculture: 180-plus conversations with the founders, CEOs and scientists building vertical farms, greenhouses and the technology behind them. Host Harry Duran gets past the pitch to the economics, the failures and what actually scales. Part of the iGrowNews podcast network.

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182: The Importance of Smart Controls in Transforming Greenhouse Operations

182: The Importance of Smart Controls in Transforming Greenhouse Operations

July 31, 2026 53:00

Ever wondered if your greenhouse control system is actually helping—or if it’s leaving you in the dark about your energy bills? I’ve been there, and that’s exactly what we dig into in this episode.

Joining me are Neda, CEO and co-founder of Microclimates, and Gretchen, Executive Director at the Greenhouse Lighting and Systems Engineering Consortium at Cornell, whose combined expertise covers everything from cutting-edge environmental controls to energy efficiency in controlled environment agriculture. Neda has an extensive background in developing technologies that empower growers with actionable data, while Gretchen brings years of research experience with leading universities and utility-backed initiatives in optimizing greenhouse lighting and automation.

This episode unpacks the real-world findings from the CalNEX Project—a first-of-its-kind scientific study focused on the impact of smart environmental monitoring and controls in California greenhouses. We compare “smart” and “smarter” systems, revealing surprising industry gaps in environmental data collection, misunderstood overhead costs, and how simple steps can lead to significant energy savings and business sustainability.

Beyond the results, we chat about practical steps for adopting automation without ripping out your current systems, new open-platform sensor trends, the reality (and future) of AI in controlled ag, and why a phased, data-driven approach will be key for small and large growers alike. If you’re daunted by all the talk of sensors, integration, or AI, consider this the guide to understanding what actually matters—and what you can do today.

Curious if you’re missing an easy win in your farm’s energy management, or want a reality check on all the AI hype? Tune in now and turn your environmental data into your biggest asset!

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Key Takeaways

00:00 Discussing the CalNEX Project findings

03:17 Smart Controls Project achievements

07:52 Improving greenhouse energy efficiency

10:34 Energy consumption misconceptions

12:57 Diverse systems in cannabis farming

19:10 Automating greenhouse light management

22:22 Operational impacts in construction projects

25:40 Consulting on greenhouse tech needs

27:50 Discussing phased approach for innovations

29:57 Phased approach to AI implementation

35:51 Parental influence on IT security

37:02 Adopting AI and Automation Tools

41:17 Starting with basic crop monitoring

43:32 Indoor farming control techniques

46:39 Year of retrofits and opportunities

49:46 Appreciating industry partnerships

Tweetable Quotes

"Our job is to complement what's already there. The projects Gretchen mentioned, every site had something different… Our job wasn't to go in and just say, rip everything out for this control study and start over because we want to collect the data. It was really to take a look at what do you currently have, how can we complement that with adding more environmental insight, environmental visibility to that operation, and is there a way that we can integrate what you currently have?"
"I'd say the biggest surprise and biggest lesson was that they didn't have enough environmental visibility. A lot of these operations had maybe one temperature humidity sensor hanging in the middle of the room representing the entire greenhouse or a section of the greenhouse. Your control system is only as good as the information it's taking in, like the input, right?"
"If you don't have the thousands of data points, if you can't summarize the trends, if you can't make any recommendations and alerts, and you can't generate those reports based on the thousand data points, how is this AI going to actually get to know you?... First of all, we have to step back and say, are operators actually collecting data? We already said early on in this conversation they are, but they don't have enough environmental visibility, which means they actually are not collecting enough data."

Resources Mentioned

Website - www.microclimates.com

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Microclimates-Inc

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/microclimates

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/microclimates.inc

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/microclimates

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gschimelpfenig/

Resource Innovation Institute - https://resourceinnovation.org/

Microclimates - https://microclimates.com/

Priva Control Systems - https://www.priva.com/

Ritter Greenhouse Automation - https://rittergreenhouse.com/

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181: Why Mastering Vapor Pressure Control Holds the Key to Exceptional Crop Quality with David Sandelman

181: Why Mastering Vapor Pressure Control Holds the Key to Exceptional Crop Quality with David Sandelman

May 9, 2026 43:35

Ever wonder why your plants aren’t thriving—or why your post-harvest yields and terpene profiles just don’t stack up? I’ve been there, and this episode is your shortcut out of the guesswork.

This week, I’m joined by David Sandelman, CTO of Cannatrol, inventor, and expert in environmental controls with decades of pioneering innovation under his belt. From the origins of digital thermostats to revolutionizing post-harvest processing in cheese, charcuterie, and cannabis, David Sandelman brings deep scientific insight and a passion for precision.

We dive into the real science behind environmental control—why traditional approaches to humidity just don’t cut it, and how understanding vapor pressure is the key to stable, high-quality crops across cheese, cannabis, and even hops. David Sandelman explains, in plain terms, how “water activity” trumps “percent moisture” for true shelf stability and consistent results.

You’ll also hear about the future of indoor farming, from AI-optimized grow rooms to what legacy cultivators can learn from the world of cheese and charcuterie. Plus, we dig into practical applications—whether you’re a large-scale producer or a passionate home grower—along with candid insights from David Sandelman’s journey in the industry.

Ready to get clarity and control over your crops while boosting quality and yield? Hit play and discover the system that’s changing the game for post-harvest and indoor growers everywhere.

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Key Takeaways

00:00 From Vermont Restaurants to Post-Harvest Technology

00:06:10 The Science of Controls and Humidity Explained

00:12:01 Cannabis Flower, Water Activity, and Drying Innovation

00:18:00 Trichomes, Terpenes, and Preserving Quality

00:23:32 Consistency, Yield, and the Future of Quality Cannabis

00:29:32 Expanding Applications: Hops, Tea, and Industry Insights

00:34:35 Embracing Change and Applying Proven Science

Tweetable Quotes

"That's when we built a prototype and we purchased a wine cooler and stripped it out, just used the insulated box with the door and put a couple of thousand dollars worth of controls on it, gave it to a grower and said, put some flour in there and tell us what happens. Is it going to destroy it? Does nothing? And sure enough, two weeks later, he's like, I don't know what this box is, but this is some of the finest flower I've ever produced. He's, like, hanging on to it. I'm not going to give it back. And that's when we knew we were onto something."
"We are a process system that's designed for the process of getting your proper product to the right water activity for shelf stability versus applying conventional comfort cooling equipment to accomplish it."
"We like to say it's sous vide for weed."

Resources Mentioned

Website - https://cannatrols.com/

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-sandelman-74323216/

Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/@cannatrolsolutions

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cannatrol/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/cannatrol/

Twitter - https://x.com/Cannatrols

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2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

2025 Precision Ag Report

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Precision Agriculture Report 2025: Surprising Patent & Funding Trends - AgTech Digest: Weekly Agriculture Technology News & Deals

Precision Agriculture Report 2025: Surprising Patent & Funding Trends - AgTech Digest: Weekly Agriculture Technology News & Deals

April 20, 2026 37:59

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iGrow News - 2025 Precision Ag Intelligence Report - https://igrownews.com/precision

Episode Description

What shook up the world of precision agriculture in 2025? In this exclusive deep dive, Harry Duran sits down with Sepehr Achard, fellow co-founder of iGrow News, to explore the striking trends and surprising signals from the just-released 2025 Precision Ag Intelligence Report. From the surging impact of AI on product development—and the sudden vulnerability of software-only companies—to unexpected M&A moves like food giants buying robotics startups and why a drop in patent filings could predict a seismic shift, this episode connects the industry’s hidden dots.

Discover why $600 million in funding might no longer guarantee success, the mysterious surge of patents out of China (but almost none granted), and which countries are quietly emerging as ag innovation hubs. The guests grapple with the future of metrics like "compute cost per acre," the looming prospect of AI-taxation, and whether distribution—rather than technology—could become the true differentiator.

And in a world rocked by global tensions, could fertilizer shocks and input price spikes trigger the next wave of ag innovation—or stall it in its tracks? Don't miss this detailed yet fast-paced conversation pulling back the curtain on where precision ag is heading next.

Ready for the data points no newswire is covering? Press play.

5 Key Takeaways

In a rapidly evolving AgTech landscape, strategic awareness and rapid adaptation are critical for survival and growth. Take charge of your future with these decisive actions:

  1. Monitor patent activity and social signals of key industry players to anticipate strategic moves and market shifts.
  2. Diversify beyond pure software solutions—build or partner for hardware, own unique data, and prioritize distribution networks for defensible growth.
  3. Prepare for increased M&A activity by strengthening your customer base, technology differentiation, and profitability to become acquisition-ready.
  4. Rethink KPIs for the AI era by tracking new metrics like compute cost per acre and token usage to measure operational efficiency.
  5. Keep a pulse on global events, such as geopolitical conflict and supply chain volatility, to anticipate their cascading impact on AgTech investments and strategic decisions.

Act now—evaluate your business model, data, and partnerships with these insights to stay ahead in precision agriculture.

Memorable Quotes

"It's not a differentiator anymore to have fancy technology or AI you can create; the real differentiators are controlling the data, owning the hardware, and—most importantly—having the distribution."
"The cost of developing new products is dramatically decreasing, but the cost of introducing these products to market is increasing; developing technology alone doesn't mean much anymore because it can be replicated quickly and cheaply."
"China has a patent creation engine driven by universities, but once you look at actual granted patents and real technology, there are overlooked hubs like Korea, Japan, India, Israel, the Netherlands, and the U.S. producing innovations that are truly patentable and impactful."

Resources Mentioned

Taylor Farms - https://www.taylorfarms.com/

FarmWise (Autonomous Weeding Business) - https://www.farmwise.io/

Climate Corporation - https://climate.com/

John Deere - https://www.deere.com/

Massey Ferguson - https://www.masseyferguson.com/

CNH Industrial - https://www.cnh.com/

Starlink (integrated by CNH Industrial) - https://www.starlink.com/

Arable - https://www.arable.com/

Google Cloud - https://cloud.google.com/

Amazon Web Services (AWS) - https://aws.amazon.com/

Yamaha Agriculture - https://global.yamaha-motor.com/business/precision_ag/

Caterpillar - https://www.caterpillar.com/

Monarch Tractor - https://monarchtractor.com/

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Greenhouse Success Stories: https://greenhouse-success-stories.captivate.fm/listen

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180: Why Focusing on Farming Holds the Key to Real Success in Vertical Agriculture

180: Why Focusing on Farming Holds the Key to Real Success in Vertical Agriculture

March 20, 2026 41:40

Ever wonder if vertical farming is more about mastering plant care than chasing the latest tech trend? I do—and in this episode, you'll find out why that's the reality.

Join me as I sit down with Andrew Volpetti, Business Development Director for North America at Red Horticulture, whose deep background in horticulture, hydroponics, and business development has positioned him at the forefront of controlled environment agriculture innovation. With an impressive career spanning over 15 years—including leadership in lighting solutions and a passion for solving agricultural challenges—Andrew brings rich expertise and refreshing honesty to the booming vertical farming industry.

This episode gets real about what’s driving the next wave in vertical farming: prioritizing plant health and farm success over flashy tech. Together, Harry Duran and Andrew Volpetti unpack why the “hype bubble” around vertical farming technology has popped, and why that’s a good thing for growers, investors, and anyone passionate about sustainable food systems. You’ll get an insider look at how Red Horticulture’s dynamic LED lighting is helping make farming smarter, not just more high-tech.

Beyond tech talk, we explore personal journeys—from backyard gardening roots to global industry leadership—plus crucial topics like sustainability, the impact of legacy practices on soil and water, and the evolving rebate landscape for LED upgrades. Andrew Volpetti also shares candid stories of wins, challenges, and the importance of relationship-building in agri-business.

Ready to discover the real future of vertical farming and how you can be part of a movement that’s grounded in reality—not just hype? Click play and listen to the full episode now!

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Key Takeaways

00:00 Indoor Ag Con Recap & Industry Reality

00:06 Early Connections: Family, Food, and Farming

00:13 Hydrofarm Career Journey & Sales Philosophy

00:22 Transition to RED Horticulture & Dynamic Lighting

00:29 LED Technology Advances & Client Success Stories

00:36 Work Ethic, Motivation, and Future Visions

Tweetable Quotes

"I think a lot of the hype bubble, which did pop, and everyone using that trough of disillusionment graph ad nauseam, I think it was good to see. And I think everyone is appreciating it more."
"Dynamic lighting was something that I was vaguely familiar with. I knew there were a lot of changes in LEDs, and the one thing I knew I didn't want to do is just be a box pusher. I wanted to believe in the product, I wanted to understand the product, and I wanted to find solutions for people growing crops that hadn't been presented to them. That's where I think the value lies."
"I wanted to take Latin. I wound up taking 8 years of Latin. Now, I'm not going to say I was an A student. I wasn't a B student. I was like a C-. But you know what? Dogged determination. I think that pays. And I think it also helped me just realize, look, if you work hard, you put the time in, you learn, you really can achieve, you know, and I think my parents' work ethic, but you know, being told you can't do something is usually the greatest motivator for most people."

Resources Mentioned

Website - https://www.horticulture.red/en/

LinkedIn – linkedin.com/in/andrew-volpetti-mba

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2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

2025 Precision Ag Report

2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

2025 Precision Ag Report

179: How Eleusis Helps Feed Security and Builds Rancher Resilience During Droughts with Joaquin Gonzalez

179: How Eleusis Helps Feed Security and Builds Rancher Resilience During Droughts with Joaquin Gonzalez

December 5, 2025 54:26

Ever feel like droughts, rising costs, or feed shortages are always threatening your ranch’s future? I get it—and so does this week’s guest, who’s engineering innovative solutions for resilient, sustainable animal agriculture.

In this episode, Harry Duran sits down with Joaquin Gonzalez, Chief Expansion Officer at Eleusis Feed, an expert in agricultural engineering with deep roots (literally) in ranching and hydroponic fodder systems. Raised on a ranch near Santiago and backed by a career spanning Chile, Colorado, and now Texas, Joaquin Gonzalez brings a wealth of hands-on experience and entrepreneurial spirit to revolutionize how livestock are fed.

This conversation dives into the power of hydroponic fodder systems as a game-changer for ranchers and farmers battling water scarcity, price hikes, and traditional feed limitations. Joaquin Gonzalez unpacks why modular container farms aren’t always the answer at scale, and shares how Eleusis Feed’s industrial solutions offer flexibility for both small and massive operations, empowering producers in drought-prone regions to ensure feed—and food—security all year long.

Beyond the nuts and bolts of fodder systems, you’ll hear stories from Joaquin Gonzalez's lifelong obsession with horses, lessons learned from engineering trial and error, and the realities of transitioning from South America to the U.S. Discover what it really takes to convince traditional ranchers to embrace innovation, and get inspired by the impact of sustainable practices on animal health, water conservation, and rural livelihoods.

If you’re ready to learn how vertical farming can safeguard your operation and secure the future of animal agriculture, tune in to this episode now—this one’s packed with practical insights and the passion to match. Listen and get equipped to grow smarter today!

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Key Takeaways

00:06:42 Tackling Chile’s Drought and the Quest for Sustainable Fodder

00:13:01 Engineering Solutions: Container Farms and Overcoming Mold

00:19:22 Barley Fodder for All: From Horses to Giraffes

00:25:29 Scaling Up: Industrial Hydroponic Fodder Systems

00:32:09 Educating Ranchers and Challenging Traditions

00:38:18 Entrepreneurship, Moving to Austin, and Staying Motivated

Tweetable Quotes

"At the end, you have to have horses, you have to have a trainer and all this stuff, and it was something that from there I transitioned to another sport because it was too expensive. Being one of seven, it wasn't something that I was the only one obsessed with horses and stuff, so I pushed that dream aside and focused on other sports. But then after college, I picked it up again, started riding again, won another championship, and it was everything about having a horse and having a train with feed and all this stuff that gets complicated over time. That is something I have in my heart—at some point, I will do it for sure."
"The containerized solution that we could put together was able to produce 850 pounds a day, which, if you look at the industry, you can feed 30 cows, 35 horses, and stuff like that. I was talking to many ranchers that had 200 head of cattle, so for that you need eight containers. Putting one container next to another at some point doesn't make sense—maybe two is okay, three you start to think about, no, because every container has its own system, its own way of farming. At the end, we were looking for something more industrial."
"With a fodder system, you use about 95% less water than traditional farm. We’re here to help those places, especially in the western states, where drought makes water a critical issue. There are even incentives from the government like retiring wells—they’ll pay you to retire a well because water is so scarce. Those are the people who benefit the most from this technology."

Resources Mentioned

Website - https://eleusisfeed.com/

YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxbGX9JbBJ89H51sVEN1Bog

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/joaquingonzalezv/

Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576560510377

Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/eleusis_feed/

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2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

2025 Precision Ag Report

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2025 Precision Ag Report

178: Why Modular Vertical Farming Holds the Key to Scalable Food Security with Fischer Farm's Tristan Fischer

178: Why Modular Vertical Farming Holds the Key to Scalable Food Security with Fischer Farm's Tristan Fischer

November 21, 2025 1:01:26

Ever wondered how to scale your vertical farm without breaking the bank—or your nerves?

In this episode of the Vertical Farming Podcast, I sit down with Tristan Fischer, CEO of Fisher Farms, one of the pioneers in modular farming technology. Tristan brings over 25 years of experience in clean energy and large-scale renewables, translating that expertise into creating more efficient, scalable, and cost-effective vertical farming solutions. Having navigated the challenges of building some of the largest vertical farms in the UK, Tristan is passionate about making vertical farming both accessible and sustainable—and he’s got the battle-tested insights to prove it.

We dive deep into Fisher Farms’ journey from traditional R&D setups to their cutting-edge modular approach, using shipping containers like building blocks for truly scalable farms. Tristan shares candid stories about the risks and surprises of massive farm construction, and how clever modular design is transforming the economics and flexibility of indoor agriculture, enabling global expansion—even in places like Abu Dhabi, where energy costs are astonishingly low.

Beyond technology, we explore Fisher Farms’ culture of innovation, their relentless focus on driving down costs, and why Tristan believes vertical farming should move from premium niche to practical staple for feeding the world. You’ll hear how the team’s values—kindness, respect, factfulness, and robustness—help foster big ideas and quick pivots, and how these principles drive Fisher Farms to be the lowest-cost vertical farm in the world.

If you’re ready to rethink what’s possible with vertical farming and discover how modularity might be the answer to your growth headaches, don’t miss this episode! Click play and join us as we explore the future of feeding the world—without wrecking the planet.

Ready to stop dreaming and start building a profitable, impactful vertical farm that transcends tired food system models? Click to listen and get inspired by Mary’s story, strategy, and actionable insights!

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Key Takeaways

00:00 Fisher Farms Expansion and Modular Approach

06:01 Overcoming Scaling Challenges at Farm Two

12:01 Fisher Farms Ethos and Focus on Cost Reduction

18:31 Advancements in Lighting and Efficiency

23:40 Competing with Glasshouses and New Market Opportunities

29:54 Modular Growth in the UAE and Global Impact

35:03 Plug and Play Modular Flexibility

40:02 Fisher Farms Technology Certification and Branding

46:08 Building an Innovative, Kind, and Robust Company Culture

52:42 Closing Reflections and Future Outlook

Tweetable Quotes

"If you have a thousand things which need to get right, I think we probably planned for about 900 of them and got them right, and then once Farm 2 got running, 50 of them were relatively quick to fix, but there were a few items which actually ended up being very, very difficult. Sometimes you had a problem hiding behind another problem."
"Our view is that if we focus on really driving down cost, cost, cost, cost, then we don’t have to worry about becoming a premium brand—but it gets us in the direction where we want to be, which is: how do you actually feed the world without trashing the planet at the same time?"
"What we want is my terrible idea and a genuinely bad idea, and your crazy, insane idea and somebody else’s drug-addled idea or sleep-addled idea—whatever it is—and they’re all actually genuinely bad ideas independently, but by putting those ideas together, layering those ideas on top, we come up with a beautiful, brilliant insight which none of us independently had thought about."

Resources Mentioned

LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tristanfischer/?originalSubdomain=uk

Website - https://fischerfarms.co.uk/

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2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

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2025 Precision Ag Report by iGrowNews

2025 Precision Ag Report

177: How Mary Wetherill Discovered the Business Model Shift That Makes Urban Farming Profitable

177: How Mary Wetherill Discovered the Business Model Shift That Makes Urban Farming Profitable

October 31, 2025 56:10

I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve watched passionate urban farmers burn out because their business model wasn’t sustainable—what if there were a better way?

This week on Vertical Farming, I sit down with Mary Wetherill, founding president and CEO of Green Food Solutions, for a candid conversation about building a truly sustainable urban farming business. Mary’s unique journey—from the service industry and massage therapy to pioneering food access solutions in city environments—gives her an unmatched perspective on both the struggles and opportunities vertical farmers face today.

In this episode, Mary demystifies how Green Food Solutions is reimagining the food system with a “farming as a service” franchise model that prioritizes support, profitability, and genuine community impact. We dig into what makes a good franchise partner, why most farms face recurring challenges, and how Mary’s mission-driven approach is shaking up the industry’s status quo. If you’ve ever wondered how to make real money in urban farming—without sacrificing your values—this conversation is your playbook.

Beyond the business model, you’ll hear stories about navigating Silicon Valley hype cycles, lessons learned from early accelerator programs, the importance of resourcefulness, and the surprising ways personal experience shapes entrepreneurial journeys. Plus, discover how Green Food Solutions fosters partnerships that work, advice for new farmers, and eye-opening discussions on market realities and PR.

Ready to stop dreaming and start building a profitable, impactful vertical farm that transcends tired food system models? Click to listen and get inspired by Mary’s story, strategy, and actionable insights!

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Key Takeaways

00:00 Jersey City Roots and Entrepreneurial Beginnings

06:10 Entering Urban Farming & The Square Roots Experience

12:35 Green Food Solutions Business Model Explained

18:26 Franchising, Farmers, and Fit for New Owners

24:57 Green Food Solutions Origin Story & Mission

30:22 Monetization, Resourcefulness, and Revenue Streams

36:48 Team Management & Leadership Values

41:02 Industry Reflections & Farmers’ Challenges

46:16 Closing Thoughts & Contact Information

Tweetable Quotes

"Honestly, when I worked for Merrill Lynch, I quit. I was in with my boss and I was getting a promotion. She brought me in her office and I was just going to give my two weeks. I'd rather stick a pencil in my eyes than take your promotion. I just really didn't like the corporate environment."
"We were disgusted by how consultants and all these people were charging tens, twenties of thousands of dollars for things we were giving for free, and honestly, manufacturers usually give those for free—so I didn’t like what I saw happening when I was so originally excited about it."
"There was a day that my mom had a box of food that was brought into the house by a priest. I think that was the first day I had an experience of feeling poor, regardless of what level it was. I started selling my toys and shining shoes—I think I got my knowledge about monetization and being resourceful because of having grown up poor."

Resources Mentioned

Website - https://www.greenfoodsolutions.com

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176: From Panic to Prevention: Pathogen Management Strategies for Indoor Growers

176: From Panic to Prevention: Pathogen Management Strategies for Indoor Growers

October 10, 2025 46:34

Are you worried about potential pathogens lurking in your indoor farm's water system or substrate? I've got you covered with insights from an expert in agricultural analytics.

I sat down with Taylor Robinson, Chief Scientist and founder of Rimrock Analytical, to discuss the critical role of proactive monitoring in controlled environment agriculture. Taylor's unique background in molecular sciences and agriculture has positioned him as a leader in providing cutting-edge analytical services to indoor farms.

Taylor shed light on the common challenges indoor farmers face, from biofouling in water systems to unexpected pathogen outbreaks. He stressed the importance of having a solid biosecurity plan and regular monitoring to catch issues early. We delved into real-world case studies, including a Pythium outbreak that nearly devastated a farm's operations, and how data-driven solutions helped turn the situation around.

We also explored the evolving landscape of indoor farming, discussing the industry's consolidation and the lessons learned from early adopters. Taylor shared valuable insights on how farms of all sizes can benefit from analytical services, emphasizing the return on investment in preventing crop losses. If you're involved in indoor farming or curious about the science behind growing food in controlled environments, this episode is packed with practical knowledge you won't want to miss.

Ready to unlock the secrets of maintaining a healthy indoor farm environment? Listen now to gain valuable insights that could save your crops and optimize your growing operations.

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Key Takeaways

5:03 Water treatment challenges in indoor farming

10:31 Proactive monitoring vs. reactive troubleshooting

16:23 Education and support for growers

22:25 Risks of pathogen spread in grow systems

26:50 State of the indoor farming industry

31:32 Rimrock team size and recent hires

34:36 Importance of preventative maintenance for farms

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"We take the mantra of 'data to decisions' at Rimrock. We see ourselves as a vehicle to streamline what can be barriers for growers and operators to get the necessary data."
"Microbes have the capacity to multiply and spread very rapidly. So keeping a close eye on things, establishing routine monitoring surveys we've found is key."
"We're rolling out a microbial heat map to help you better visualize your microbial results mapped to your process flow in your facility. With that you can see potential hotspots for pathogens and how they might integrate to downstream systems."

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175: Advanced Aeroponics & Why Vertical Farming’s Future Lies in Glasshouses

175: Advanced Aeroponics & Why Vertical Farming’s Future Lies in Glasshouses

September 12, 2025 51:52

Are you curious about the latest innovations in sustainable agriculture? I recently caught up with Charlie Guy, CEO of Let Us Grow, to discuss the fascinating world of advanced aeroponics and its potential to revolutionize greenhouse farming.

Charlie shared insights on Let Us Grow's journey from vertical farming to focusing on aeroponics technology for greenhouses. He explained how their advanced aeroponics system offers significant advantages over traditional hydroponic methods, including increased yields, improved plant health, and reduced water usage. Charlie also touched on the company's expansion into global markets and their efforts to educate both industry professionals and the public about the benefits of controlled environment agriculture.

We delved into the challenges faced by the vertical farming industry and how Let Us Grow has adapted to changing market conditions. Charlie emphasized the importance of collaboration within the industry and highlighted their partnerships with established greenhouse builders and system integrators. He also discussed their community outreach efforts, such as the Bristol Basil Company initiative, which demonstrates the potential of local food production using advanced growing techniques.

Throughout our conversation, Charlie provided valuable insights into the future of controlled environment agriculture and the role of aeroponics in creating more sustainable and resilient food systems. If you're interested in the intersection of technology and agriculture, or simply curious about where your food comes from, this episode offers a fascinating glimpse into the cutting-edge world of advanced growing methods.

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Key Takeaways

5:07 Shifting focus to glasshouses and partnerships

11:40 Biking to GreenTech conference and industry events

16:44 Building relationships with government agencies

20:21 Bristol Basil Company and local food initiatives

28:12 BBC Radio 4 feature on sustainable growing

34:57 Challenges of running a company in this environment

39:06 Future plans and global expansion goals

44:01 Closing thoughts on collaboration in indoor farming

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"We've taken the rolling bench architecture widely used in the greenhouse industry and integrated our advanced aeroponics technology into it. This means we can partner with numerous Dutch large greenhouse builders to deliver these systems, providing the smarts while they handle the delivery."
"There's no point in doing vertical farming unless it's powered by renewable energy. It doesn't make sense from an environmental standpoint to burn fossil fuels to convert them into electrons to power lights to grow plants when the sun is free."
"We're showing you can turn disused greenhouses into productive grows that are profitable and give back to your local food community. You can achieve many of the same outcomes as vertical farming with a slightly lower tech structure like a greenhouse, while still growing the best produce year-round with the least water."

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174: The Hidden Power of Steam in Indoor Farming with Soil Steam's Hans Kristian Westrum

174: The Hidden Power of Steam in Indoor Farming with Soil Steam's Hans Kristian Westrum

August 29, 2025 46:43

Are you struggling to maintain soil health and reduce costs in your indoor farming operation? Soil steaming technology might be the solution you've been searching for.

In this episode, I speak with Hans Kristian Westrum, Chief Strategy Manager at Soil Steam, about their innovative soil steaming technology. Hans grew up on a farm in Norway and later pursued a career in business before returning to agriculture. His company, Soil Steam, has developed machines that use steam to sanitize soil and substrates, eliminating harmful pathogens and weeds without chemicals.

We discuss how Soil Steam's technology evolved from open field applications to containerized solutions for indoor farming. Hans shares insights on how their machines can effectively treat substrates, allowing farmers to recycle growing media and reduce costs. Recent trials with strawberry growers in Belgium demonstrated that steamed, recycled substrates performed as well as new substrates, opening up exciting possibilities for sustainable farming practices.

The conversation also touches on the challenges of balancing different market demands, from construction projects to indoor farms. Hans emphasizes the importance of focusing on containerized solutions to meet the growing needs of indoor farmers worldwide. We explore future plans for expansion into North America and the company's commitment to participating in industry conferences to share their research and technology.

If you're curious about innovative solutions for sustainable indoor farming and want to learn how soil steaming technology could revolutionize your growing practices, don't miss this fascinating conversation with Hans Kristian Westrum.

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Key Takeaways

0:00 Intro: Steaming soil for construction and farming

5:13 Early experiences with steam on the farm

16:53 Expanding into indoor farming and substrates

21:15 Research on steaming to eliminate pathogens

27:52 Positive results from substrate recycling tests

34:00 Focusing on container-based steaming machines

39:02 Closing thoughts and future plans

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"We steam the substrate before they took it in the first time to have control. Be 100% sure that this is clean. These guys cannot take a risk on anything. If you have one disease in that coco coir or whatever you get, if something can happen, it means it comes from Sri Lanka and it can go by boat, what happens all this distance."
"We got rid of the harmful organisms that were there and the natural life was back two weeks after. It comes from surroundings, from the soil beneath and stuff like that."
"I think it's a fantastic combination. You can talk about sustainability, but if there's no saving money, it's impossible. We say that we can recycle one cube of the substrate at the cost of maybe five to ten dollars. Approximately something between 50 and 60, 70, $80 per cube."

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